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O2 setups comparo

White Dwarf 89

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I'd like to know how O2's are displayed in the different systems other than voltage values. I'd also like to know if there is a conversion formula to go from voltage readings to whatever else is out there(lamda) or ??

My bad for the double post.
 
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To fully understand why a high performance vehicle tuner would be better off using a wide-band O2 sensor/gauge versus a narrow band setup, we must first understand what each sensor was originally developed to do.

Narrow Band O2 Sensors began to appear on vehicles with the advent of fuel injection in the 1980’s. Their purpose was to monitor component degradation (i.e. fuel injectors, vacuum leaks) of vehicles as they accumulated miles. Their basic job was to let the computer know whether the vehicle was running at an air/fuel ratio of 14.7:1 under idle (ideal ratio for gasoline engines), moderate acceleration, and cruise conditions, and if it wasn’t, to “trim” the injector pulse-width to either slightly lean or richen the engine. When the computer is paying attention to the input from the O2 sensor, the engine is operating in a “closed-loop” capacity. Under heavier acceleration or wide-open throttle the computer ignores the O2 sensor because it requires an air/fuel ratio other than 14.7:1, which is outside the design parameters of the sensor. This is known as “open-loop” operation. The sensor lets the computer know if the engine is running above or below 14.7:1 by sending voltage to the computer in a range between 0 and 1 volt, usually sweeping between the two extremes of this scale. Auto Meter’s traditional narrow-band air/fuel ratio gauges are simply a voltmeter for this signal. This can be seen by the repeated sweeping back and forth of the gauge in most idle, light throttle, and cruise conditions. To summarize, a narrow band O2 sensor is only able to tell a computer (or gauge, for that matter) whether an engine is operating above or below a 14.7:1 air/fuel ratio.

Wide Band O2 Sensors where developed in the early ‘90s as vehicle manufacturers began looking to obtain air/fuel ratio information under all circumstances. This ranged from WOT to varying ratios, for example running air/fuel ratios leaner than 14.7:1 under cruise conditions. Volkswagen and Honda pioneered the development of the wide-band O2 sensors to provide accurate air-fuel ratios under these varying circumstances. They did this by broadening the voltage range in which feedback from the sensor was provided and making a linear scale that provided a fixed voltage that correlated to a specific air/fuel ratio.

High performance vehicle tuners discovered that wide-band O2 sensors are very helpful when accurate air/fuel ratio readings are required to maximize power, reliability, and mileage on modified vehicles. With these benefits in mind and to meet consumer demand, Auto Meter has created a wide-band air/fuel ratio gauge/sensor to augment our popular narrow band, gauge only offering. This unit uses the Bosch LSU 4.2 sensor that is known industry wide to be both accurate and durable, along with an advanced control unit that is encased entirely within the gauge head. Further, the gauge head utilizes both an LED readout, for accuracy, and a radial display for ease of reading. Combined with user definable stoichiometric ranges and voltage outputs, Auto Meter’s wide-band gauge creates a useful and greatly needed tool for the tuning market. As an added bonus, Auto Meter will be offering these gauge kits in our most popular gauge lines.
 
I am not going to lie, I didn't even read your post as I didn't have time, but EVERYTHING is read in lambda and converted to wideband. So if peolple say wideband is more accurate that is false.

Lamba is rarely used by the common person since it is so hard to dial in a number between 0 and 1. Any idiot can tune a number between 1 and infinity...
 
I just got to experience my new AEM Wideband yesterday. I really like it. It's showing me some valuable info, that I was guessing about in the past. really helpful tool. First test, 20 psi boost, no alky, 12.0 AFR. So I had it set-up pretty close by guessing before I had the wideband. Next test with more boost and alky turned ON I realized that my alky was set way too rich... 22 psi boost alky, 93 octane the gauge showed 10.3, very rich. Turned the alky pump down as well as the spray on point to 20psi (was at 18psi). Tried another run and it felt like it picked up much better. So at 24psi boost with alky, 93 octane, it showed 12.1.
This was all on a 95 degree day. Wish I had more time and a 1/4 mile dragstip , but had a good time farting around town. Powerlogger is next.
 
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