biggdoggtta
Junior Member
Hello fellow Turbo Trans Am owners,
After a very busy four plus years I am back to my roots with the TTA Group.
As most of you know, I am privileged to be the custodian of the Prototype TTAs. Along with the Jeff Beitzel TTA Convertible, resides the TTA Design Check Vehicle and the TTA Emissions Certification Vehicle. This collection is complemented by the stand held Full View TTA Display Engine, same item as is pictured in the TTA brochure.
A few years back I acquired all the TTA project records held by PAS Corporation. These records are complete with every conceivable major drivetrain part identified and sequenced for each specific TTA VIN number. Each vehicle was assigned a PAS Corporation sequence number prior to dealership distribution. That sequence number and surrounding information is in the records as well. Most records were kept on wide form computer printouts although some information on each vehicle exist in written form involving specific pre-delivery discrepancies.
Over the years TTA owners have received alleged sequence number information from a couple of sources. Neither source provides accurate information on the sequence number. Certainly you have observed that those sources provide no other VIN number specific information.
As you know, this unique vehicle posessed a PAS Corporation Window Sticker at time of Dealership Delivery. The vehicles were in fact delivered from PAS Corporation's City of Industry facility to the dealership delivery location; where they in turn would proceed to their respective dealerships for sale to the end customer. Obviously there were many vehicles that left PAS directly for delivery to Indianapolis, IN. I have that background information and records as well.
I have done a quick review of the last 18 months for TTA sales. It is pleasing to know that prices have moved up significantly, clearly in preparation for the 20 year old mark. Limited production car history has shown that prices can substantially change around an age of 20 years. It is theorized that collectors will purchase a vehicle a few years prior to the 20 year old mark looking for that upward movement. This line of reasoning also includes awareness that "evaluation period" for the long term desirability of a particular limited production vehicle is between 20-25 years post production.
A brief look at the recent Barrett-Jackson Scottsdale Auction revealed a 1987-1988 Trans Am GTA, of no special heritage, selling for over $30,000. When new, that vehicle was less than $20,000 and one of approximately 8,000 produced. The GTA vehicle, like so many others at the Scottsdale auction, was represented with detailed, collector oriented documentation. As a side note, that less than 20 year old Trans Am GTA was not 100% stock parts, far from it.
The wonderfully detailed information on our 1989 Turbo Trans Am that I previously mentioned will place both the owner and the vehicle in high regard within collector circles. Unique in this circumstance, since of no other Manufacturer of Origin kept VIN number specific sequential records to this level of detail. Clearly, this highly complete VIN number build information will boost a vehicle's value by 20%-100% at auction. Even the highest mileage, less well conditioned TTA should increase value by thousands of dollars with this documentation. Those TTA vehicles without this documentation will obviously be left behind in obtaining top market value.
My intention is to make this information available to you, the owners. I will be posting a form that you may mail in with your Vehicle description (T-Top Leather, T-Top Cloth, Hardtop Leather, Hardtop Cloth) VIN number, your name, address, email address, phone contact and payment for this researched service. The list of information you will receive is lengthy and detailed but not limited to the following:
Vehicle Sequence Number
Engine Sequence Number
Transmission Sequence Number
Engine Serial Number
Transmission Serial Number
All dates of Assembly
All dates of delivery points
Dealership of Delivery
Discrepancy list
****Dozens of other VIN# specifics, to be explained on order form
I will be posting a order form in the near future explaining each and every bit of information you will receive. It will be my pleasure to assist in defining your collector vehicle and to watch its value soar. Should you need to contact me directly, I can be reached at the contact information below.
Best wishes
Rich Van't Hof
BIGGDOGGTTA
[email protected]
678-427-0017
After a very busy four plus years I am back to my roots with the TTA Group.
As most of you know, I am privileged to be the custodian of the Prototype TTAs. Along with the Jeff Beitzel TTA Convertible, resides the TTA Design Check Vehicle and the TTA Emissions Certification Vehicle. This collection is complemented by the stand held Full View TTA Display Engine, same item as is pictured in the TTA brochure.
A few years back I acquired all the TTA project records held by PAS Corporation. These records are complete with every conceivable major drivetrain part identified and sequenced for each specific TTA VIN number. Each vehicle was assigned a PAS Corporation sequence number prior to dealership distribution. That sequence number and surrounding information is in the records as well. Most records were kept on wide form computer printouts although some information on each vehicle exist in written form involving specific pre-delivery discrepancies.
Over the years TTA owners have received alleged sequence number information from a couple of sources. Neither source provides accurate information on the sequence number. Certainly you have observed that those sources provide no other VIN number specific information.
As you know, this unique vehicle posessed a PAS Corporation Window Sticker at time of Dealership Delivery. The vehicles were in fact delivered from PAS Corporation's City of Industry facility to the dealership delivery location; where they in turn would proceed to their respective dealerships for sale to the end customer. Obviously there were many vehicles that left PAS directly for delivery to Indianapolis, IN. I have that background information and records as well.
I have done a quick review of the last 18 months for TTA sales. It is pleasing to know that prices have moved up significantly, clearly in preparation for the 20 year old mark. Limited production car history has shown that prices can substantially change around an age of 20 years. It is theorized that collectors will purchase a vehicle a few years prior to the 20 year old mark looking for that upward movement. This line of reasoning also includes awareness that "evaluation period" for the long term desirability of a particular limited production vehicle is between 20-25 years post production.
A brief look at the recent Barrett-Jackson Scottsdale Auction revealed a 1987-1988 Trans Am GTA, of no special heritage, selling for over $30,000. When new, that vehicle was less than $20,000 and one of approximately 8,000 produced. The GTA vehicle, like so many others at the Scottsdale auction, was represented with detailed, collector oriented documentation. As a side note, that less than 20 year old Trans Am GTA was not 100% stock parts, far from it.
The wonderfully detailed information on our 1989 Turbo Trans Am that I previously mentioned will place both the owner and the vehicle in high regard within collector circles. Unique in this circumstance, since of no other Manufacturer of Origin kept VIN number specific sequential records to this level of detail. Clearly, this highly complete VIN number build information will boost a vehicle's value by 20%-100% at auction. Even the highest mileage, less well conditioned TTA should increase value by thousands of dollars with this documentation. Those TTA vehicles without this documentation will obviously be left behind in obtaining top market value.
My intention is to make this information available to you, the owners. I will be posting a form that you may mail in with your Vehicle description (T-Top Leather, T-Top Cloth, Hardtop Leather, Hardtop Cloth) VIN number, your name, address, email address, phone contact and payment for this researched service. The list of information you will receive is lengthy and detailed but not limited to the following:
Vehicle Sequence Number
Engine Sequence Number
Transmission Sequence Number
Engine Serial Number
Transmission Serial Number
All dates of Assembly
All dates of delivery points
Dealership of Delivery
Discrepancy list
****Dozens of other VIN# specifics, to be explained on order form
I will be posting a order form in the near future explaining each and every bit of information you will receive. It will be my pleasure to assist in defining your collector vehicle and to watch its value soar. Should you need to contact me directly, I can be reached at the contact information below.
Best wishes
Rich Van't Hof
BIGGDOGGTTA
[email protected]
678-427-0017
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Thank You SO MUCH!!! 
I'm a big nut when it comes to this stuff. I got lucky when I first bought my TTA I won a press pack on ebay. The guy said he worked for Pontiac on the TTA project and sent me a pile of paper work of mainly numbers and notes back and forth from the delaers from Pontiac. Some pretty cool stuff. One of these days I'll have to copy it all as well but this collection of goodies your going to offer sounds really sweet! Can't wait to see it! Like Chris said keep us up to date on the forums here as this is the only forum just for the TTA's! Thanks again for sharing! 90% of the time information like that gets tossed into a dumpster at the end of a project!
